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F-16 Intercepts Jet & Turboprop Legally Flying Through MOA

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When two GA pilots, one flying a Pilatus PC-12 and the other in a Beechcraft Premier jet, encountered an F-16 in a Military Operations Area used by Luke Air Force Base in Arizona last March, they had to take abrupt, evasive maneuvers to avoid the military jet. The incident, after it was http://www.avweb.com/avwebflas... first reported in AVwebFlash, set off a lively debate among pilots on AVweb's http://www.avweb.com/blogs/ins... blog about the wisdom of flying in MOAs, and prompted an in-depth report in our sister publication, Aviation Safety. This week, AOPA obtained a http://www.aopa.org/flightplan... video clip from the FAA showing the radar screen during the encounter, and also the voice tape from Air Traffic Control. The F-16 pilot has been reprimanded, and Luke officials told AOPA they will alter their training program to encourage their pilots to avoid similar encounters in the future. In a http://www.avweb.com/podcast/p... podcast interview with AVweb, PC-12 pilot Patrick McCall said his TCAS activated about 10 a.m. that day while he was cruising at 16,500 feet (VFR with flight following) and he had to dive his aircraft as the target kept closing on him. The target followed him in the dive and when McCall leveled at about 14,000 feet, he was amazed by the view from his side window. "I then looked to my left side of the aircraft and saw an F16 aircraft off of my left wing," he said in a written report sent to the FAA. "The F16 was no more than 20 feet off of my left wing."

Channel: Autos & Vehicles
Uploaded: November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am
Author: AVweb

Length: 03:17
Rating: 5.00
Views: 45204

Tags: AFB  air  airplane  AOPA  AVweb  Beechcraft  f-16  force  glenn  Jet  Luke  military  MOA  pc12  pew  pilatus  Premier  radar  

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64thAGGRESSOR (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Guess what typical civilian pilots feeling inferior to military combat pilots and when they felt the chance to take control of a situation and did so to the fullest, do you really think that viper pilot put anybody at danger, the drastic moves the civilian aircraft did were more dangerous than a loose formation to get a visual, Our USAF pilot are highly trained and protect idiot civilians that get a rush flying through military airspace grow some nut, any man would love to fly with a f-16 =)
mmichaeldonavon (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I understand the concern with the TCAS "alerts", but once you see the F-16 crusin' off your wing, what's all the "mad" about? Some folks are just to rigid.
nickmctrick (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Agreed.
GoNavy311 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Nobody "lets" anyone fly through a MOA, it's not an action that requires permission--you just simply fly through it. Contacting the controlling agency beforehand to find out if it's active however is a WISE practice.
GoNavy311 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
You don't need permission to fly in a MOA. It's nice to know if it's active (so you can better avoid military aircraft), but it's not prohibited airspace.
slovely08 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
If you have permission you should not have to worry about coming in contact with military jets.
afviper (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
These idiots should not have been in a MOA in the first place if they don't want to come in contact with Military Aircraft, and whoever let them fly through A MOA during a training sortie is a dumbass.
theimmelman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Had I been at the controls of either small business aircraft involved in this episode, I would have been angry too. I don't imagine the group that chartered the flights were impressed to see an F-16 pulling maneuvers around the aircraft. Be it out of the pilots hands or not, the passenger group may not see it that way. They may consider the flight planning negligent, or take the pilots skills into question for being in the situation.I'd of been waiting to file my report too! No question.
velocityflier16 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I was just thinking the same thing!
sbscottw (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
That guy said "Pieladus" lol its a Pilatus noob.

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